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Second Arrest in Sniper Shootings
   posted 5:44 pm Sat March 29, 2008 - CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va.
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chrisfrenzy
So, we're supposed to execute people for being stupid now, too? You're seriously advocating killing two boys for allegedly shooting at cars? By this reasoning, everyone who ever drove drunk should be executed as well. After all, drunk drivers endanger many lives when they're behind the wheel. And do we execute everyone who smokes in public now?

As scary as their acts were [and believe me, random shootings scare the crap out of me!], I think we might want to know their motivation first. And determine whether they were shooting to kill or not. It is entirely possible that those of you here who are calling for them to be executed are more anxious to kill someone than these two boys were. Would not getting to the bottom of their motivation not help us understand and possibly prevent similar acts in the future?

And, Gloria, I am from Wise, born and raised.


Prettyboy
Right between the eyes is what a sniper deserves..nothing less..


maewings
They're just two typical rednecks out looking for something to do. Unfortunately, they went a bit too far by shooting at live targets.


gloria1107
Completely off subject but I would like to know how far Soutwest VA Chrisfrenzy is from??? I know Wise county.

I am so thankful no one has been seriously injured - sure brings back the bad memories of the snipers here in MD. I hope he gets the max. whatever that is and I know VA can be tough unlike our whimpy PGC.


Rank & File
This is a very serious situation! If this man "he's not a boy or kid" is found to be the perpetrator, he needs to be executed! Don't waste one dime on incarceration as he tried to murder innocent people! VA please send a message, if you attempt to kill people then you lose your right to live... Thank God no one lost their life!


chrisfrenzy
Jeepster,

I'm a white redneck, gun-owning, pick-up truck driving male from far Southwest Virginia. I don't fear any particular class of people or race or creed or demographic. However, I do fear those individuals who would try to persuade the rest of us that one group or another is to be feared. I merely said that, statistically speaking, it was more likely to be bored American teen boys than Jihadists. And I was right as far as we know at this time.

And, for the record, I have a daughter, which I guess means I am suspicious of EVERY teen-aged boy alive. And I often breathe through my mouth.


Prettyboy
Um...death penalty, death penalty and DEATH PENALTY. Pieces of crap like this doesn't need air..


NVAJeeper
Jeeze...don't have a CHRISSY FIT:

ChrisFrenzy wrote: ""You and I both jumped to conclusions.You from the perspective of an irrational fear of Islam. Me from the perspective of evidence and reason. ""

Thanks for the laugh Chris,

However, the only irrational fear I see here is you fear of white Southern males. You know absolutely nothing about the person who has been arrested, nothing about his background, or even his ethnicity really. You only have his name and residence at this point. In fact, this person has not yet even been charged with any crime, let alone been convicted. Yet you jump to conclusions about him based on your irrational perceptions, perceptions based on almost no information whatsoever, only bigotry against rural white southerners. You smear all southern rural whites as "mouth breathing rednecks" Frankly, You really have put on an impressive display of bigotry here. Southern whites are the last group people like you feel comfortable stereotyping apparently, in public anyway.

I only speculated that the shooter might have been one of the known Islamic Jihadi supporters based at the compound in Red House Virginia. Speculation that was based only on their proximity to that section of I-64. Nothing more. Hardly irrational.

Your jumping to conclusions includes your speculation about me as well. You know nothing about me at all, or of my attitudes towards Islam. You imagine I must have an irrational fear of Islam since you imagine I am, in your words, a Virginia redneck. In fact, I'm from Rhode Island, I have Muslim friends at present, and have had many others over the years. Muslims from all over the Islamic world.

I'm glad that the shooter is apparently apprehended. Prayers for the victims as always.


itsme
I'm trying to figure out how a 1974 Gremlin was still running.


chrisfrenzy
Who has a Gremlin for a getaway car? I mean, really! That's about as inconspicuous as the Oscar Mayer Weiner Mobile! And all the troopers would have to do is follow the trail of oil back to his hideout.

Thank heavens for hard-working police and brain-dead perps!


holtonfb
doing some research .. yeah .. this guy has a definite "terrorist background" .. in high school he was a pole vaulter ..in the past year he's been in trouble for auto theft and setting fires s .. but the most damning thing that he was seen driving a 1974 orange Gremlin !! now that proves he's a terrorist !!


chrisfrenzy
Jeeper,

LAX shooting: "The FBI concluded this was terrorism, although they found no evidence linking Hadayet to any terrorist group." This sounds like a hate crime to me.

Beltway Sniper: "No motivation was given at the trial, but evidence presented showed an affinity to the cause of the Islamic Jihad." This sounds like a lunatic to me, much like the lunatics who kill loved ones and then confess that "God told them to do it."

And don't forget another Jewish Daycare shooting, in Seattle: "The shooter, Buford Furrow Jr., was an ex-convict on probation in Washington state. The avowed white supremacist had been released from prison three months before the attack." Sounds like a redneck to me.

The lone gunman is simply not standard MO for a fanatical Muslim terrorist, at least not at this point. You and I both jumped to conclusions. You from the perspective of an irrational fear of Islam. Me from the perspective of evidence and reason. I was right [as far as we know]. I stand by my assertion that the perp in this case was most likely one or more white males with easy access to guns. And as for living memory, I still can't find any evidence of a Jihadist movement using gun violence in Virginia.

Unreasoned fear-mongering is the real enemy here. Not a Jihad. Not even rednecks, of which I am one. When fear and a lack of understanding is your informant, justice is always the victim.


NVAJeeper
""Nor can you point to a single Jihadist incident on American soil involving a gun""

Actually there have been many. Muslim Jihadists have shot up the El Al counter at LAX for one example, a Jewish day care center for another, and shooting into a Jewish day schools van on one of the NYC bridges. And we have our own experience with the Malvo-Muhammed murder spree. Both were members of Louis Farrakans Nation of Islam cult.

As for the supposed "rash" of mouth breathing redneck snipers shooting up our Interstates, there hasn't been anything like that. Most shootings are as a result of road rage incidents that occur in urban areas, and involve all ethnic groups.

Don't let this one isolated incident in Vriginia go to your head. It's the first such incident in living memory.


Prettyboy
Well I have traveled that stretch of the highway many times heading down 81 into the Smoky Mountains and all I can say is that I am relieved that they caught this SOB. I think he should be charged with attempted murder and put in jail until he's so old he can't tell a man from a cute girl. I hope he NEVER sees the light of freedom again.. let his butt rot in Sing Sing or just take him out and blow his brains out.. that's exactly what he was trying to do to us.


bobesox
PTSD? Are you kidding me? If this had of occurred in DC or PG County you would be calling him an animal, which is what he is. There is no reason to randomly shoot at people. At least in the city their targets are usually another criminal nto just senseless shooting.

This is the reason i do not condone possession of concealed weapons of any sort and the gun ban in DC. There is a new reason for me each week.


gloria1107
Great police work and they did not need all the help offered from the posters on here either, thank God for that.


Waylon Smithers
Yeah right, jihadists are mass murders. Snipers are serial killers. There is a difference.

Lets give plenty of kudos to the Virginia State Police for their quick work in solving these crimes.


chrisfrenzy
"The state police superintendent identified the suspect today as 19-year-old Slade Woodson of Afton." I notice they don't mention him being a Jihadist of any kind. Hmmmm.

Meanwhile, ditto on the great police work!


The Commander
Excellent Police work! Thank you VA SP! I'll now carry my smaller S&W .357!


ArmedInNoVa
good police work! hopefully this is the guy and the shootings will stop.


Katiebear
Ah, chrisfrenzy, a voice of reason in the wilderness! Well said.


chrisfrenzy
Jeepers Creepers,

Nor can you point to a single Jihadist incident on American soil involving a gun. And actually, there are plenty of cases of gun-toting mouth-breathers firing potshots at cars on highways across America. Just Google "highway snipers" and see what comes up. Ohio, California, West Virginia and Indiana for starters. All of them are white males with mental problems. All of them random. Same with every mass school shooting in America, with the exception of Virginia Tech. But even there it was a messed up non-Jihadist with easy access to guns. And while the Beltway Snipers were not white, and John Allen Muhammad belonged to the Nation of Islam, they were not Islamic terrorists but merely criminally insane.

And while I won't argue the difference between "Jihadist", "Militant Islamist", and "terrorist," I will point out that terrorists seldom commit acts of violence without a larger purpose. Typically they are not paranoid schizophrenics, they are fanatics. This does not mean their acts are not heinous, just not random. However, when a mentally disturbed gunman goes on a spree, it's almost always random.

Terrorism is a very real concern on American soil and around the world, and not just the Muslim kind. Religious fanatics of every stripe offer dangerous and catastrophic solutions to perceived problems. Your immediate leap that "it's probably Muslims" is much less reasonable than my reminding you what the statistical likelihood is. If our first response to a random act of violence is to assume that Muslims did it, then the terrorists won a long time ago.

Of course, it is important for our various intelligence agencies to find, understand and stop those organizations that would mean harm to innocent Americans or any other innocent population in the world. But taking a random shooting and pouncing on the notion that it's Muslims in America is ill-informed, paranoid and completely unhelpful. Check yourself, before you wreck yourself.


gloria1107
Some of you post like you think it is a big joke. I used to live down there and I would hate it if I were there now and driving that stretch of road. It used to always be foggy also at night. Have you all forgotten the frightening time with the snipers here on the loose? Shame on you - rednecks, dirtynecks makes no difference as far as being serious.


bill white
Red necks, huh? Isnt that a racial slur? Double standards for white people as usual.


NVAJeeper
Chrisfrenzy wrote:

""Jihadists don't do random. Redneck boys do. ""

You have it exactly backwards. Jihadist terrorists specialize in random acts of violence.

And as for "redneck boys" where do you get the idea that there is a rash of sniper shootings involving rural Virginians?? Can you point to a single instance? Didn't think so.


chrisfrenzy
My bet is it's a couple of Iraq War veterans with PTSD. Our war veterans are not getting the psychological help they need and deserve! Or it's just a couple of bored American kids with easy access to guns. Statistically speaking, it's the most likely. Jihadists don't do random. Redneck boys do.


McKeever28
NVAJeeper, you may be right. We can't rule that out. I've read up on that group in Red House and from what I've read, they don't seem friendly. It's good to see someone else out there doing their homework on nefarious groups. Hopefully, this will not continue or be like what we went through in '02 around here.


NVAJeeper
Looks like a few of the Jihadists from the Jamaat ul Fuqra, aka ?Muslims of the Americas? terrorist training compound down in Red House Virginia are out for a little target practice.


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